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Miata Mailing List: May 1994, Message #159
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From: a.mccombs3@genie.geis.com Subject: Re: Oil Pressure Indication Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 06:33:48 -0400
Yet still another for Mike L. (and anyone else who wants to bother). For many years now, it's been somewhat of a rarity to find an oil pressure gauge in a car (including sports cars - my ex-1980 Triumph TR-8 didn't have a pressure gauge, only an idiot light). Thus, a lot of people wonder about what that gauge is saying when they run across a car which has one. (I suspect Mazda installed one in the Miata not because of any altruistic sense that only knowledgeable drivers would buy such a car, but rather because it fits with the somewhat "retro" and "racey" feel of some aspects of the car. Notice that they positioned the gauge up high in the center of the dash, where it is readily visible. This is hardly necessary on a modern production car, but I like it anyway and it has historical precedent to back when sports racers were British and they kept the dust down at the track with the oil belched from blown MG and Triumph engines.) Anyway, that gauge can tell you a lot, most of which may be bad news, but with a Miata, such bad news is not likely to occur for many, many years if you take halfway decent care of the car. What it is telling you is the oil pressure AT THE PRESSURE SENDING UNIT in the oil system. Pressure sending units can be located about anywhere in the oil system, so readings between different makes of cars are largely meaningless. However, you can rest assured that yours will not move around on your car, and thus under the same conditions the pressure should read the same. The pressure should be neither too high or too low (refer to another source for numbers; I'm fresh out. Yeah, I know, big help dept.) Too low and you risk too little oil being pumped to the bearing and wear surfaces and possible scoring of surfaces - bad news. However, at idle, with little or no load on the engine, 10 - 15 psi should be sufficient, although I get uncomfortable if I see pressure that low. (remember that many of the "idiot light" low pressure warning lights are set to trigger at around 3 to 5 psi. This is generally sufficient, IF the engine is not under load and not turning fast, and you shut it off at the first indication.) In other words, the warning light system is strictly a black/white, no in between system, whereas with a gauge you have a TREND instrument. If you're driving along and the pressure has stabilized at around 60 psi - but then slowly begins to drop over a period of e. g., a half hour or so, by e. g., 10 psi or so - you have a problem of some sort which is making itself known. A warning light would never tell you about it until it was too late. By observing the TREND of the instrument, you can probably determine that things aren't going to hell too rapidly, and may well be able to drive to the next spot of civilization to take care of it - then again, maybe not. (Could be something as simple as a loose oil filter or drain plug.) Mind you, variations in pressure can be caused by other things too. Driving from colder to warmer weather will generally cause pressure to drop a bit due to higher oil temps. and thus lower viscosity. (Even so called multigrades get thinner when they get warmer.) Anyway, get used to the trends of your gauge - under the same circumstances, the gauge should provide the same indication every time. The precise number indicated isn't so important, so long as it's reasonably close to a median between minimum and maximum allowable, and it's not showing signs of changing under the same circumstances from day to day. Too much oil pressure can be hazardous to the health of your engine too. You might have noted the msg. about keeping it down below 4000 RPM until the engine warms up a bit. The faster the engine is turning, the more pressure the oil pump puts out. (This has nothing to do with the load on the engine; the oil pump doesn't know how much oil the bearings need. It only knows how fast the pump drive is turning the pump.) While there are pressure relief systems, there is less margin between optimum and maximum when you have to rely on your pressure relief (either in the engine oil system or the filter, whichever). When the pressure gets too high, you run the risk of blowing out seals and the like - and getting some truly horrendous oil leaks. This can be most frustrating (and expensive) when it's the rear main, and you find yourself with a freshly oiled clutch. Note also that the COOLANT and the OIL will almost certainly warm up at different rates. Even after your coolant has stabilized at normal operating temp. (which doesn't take long on a Miata), your oil is probably still below normal operating temp - and thus ABOVE normal operating viscosity. Take it easy for a bit longer before you accelerate flat out to red line. Also, since the oil system on a Miata has no thermal control, it will run cooler in cold weather, and take longer to stabilize at a given temp - even though your coolant gauge has long since stabilized. As you may have noticed from other msgs., different filters and different oils will cause the gauge to read differently, even with the same ambient temp, same RPM, same coolant temp, etc. Again, so long as it's somewhere near the middle of what's permissible, (personal opinion here), I wouldn't worry about it. What do I do? --I try to keep the pressure indication as close to the center of the gauge as possible. This means keeping the RPM down until the engine is thoroughly warmed up, and using multiple grade viscosity oils (as noted above, they thin when they warm, but not so much as single weight oils). This technique has been working well on a '71 Datsun 240Z with oil pressure gauge and close to 200,000 miles on the engine now - and it still uses a little less than a quart of oil between changes every 3000 + miles. No new seals, no noise, no internal problems. And now that it's thoroughly warmed up and in the middle of the gauge at cruise RPM, HAVE A BLAST! --Jack M.--