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From: Phredd Subject: Re: Home made "VOODOO" knobs and shortened throw Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:08:54 -0400
+++ Jeff Pond sez: > >A couple questions concerning shift knobs. I have made my own "VOODOO >style" polished aluminum knob except it is just spherical and doesn't have >any cylindrical extension at the bottom. It looked nice except that the >hole was not drilled and tapped deep enough but I have now corrected that >(needs a little more polishing). > >Has anyone put a 10x1.25 die on the shifter shaft in order to thread it >further toward the transmission and hence lower the shift knob and hence >shorten the throw? (I would be very careful to make sure no metal chips get >dropped) > >There is about another 0.5 inches that could be threaded before the shaft >widens. It may then involve cutting off the top 0.5 inches of the shaft, >but you would still be left with about an inch of thread. > >Anyone done this? > >Anyone know why I shouldn't consider doing this? > +++ Jeff, et al: Following is an excerpt from a discussion I was having with another lister about this subject. I didn't make my own Voodoo knob as you did, Jeff, but started with one of V-Bob's own and modified it as described below. I am very satisfied with the results. The car changes gears as if by toggle switch now. Effort has not been increased very much, IMO, but then, maybe I'm just used to whatever difference there is. I can't restore it to stock to compare now as the lever is about 5/8ths inch shorter than it used to be. The entire assembly measures 82mm (3 1/4") from the plane of the top of the console (on a '93, at least) to the top of the ball. I've never had the pleasure of driving a car with a genuine short throw shifter adaptor (I forget who makes it). As I recall from what I've read, it is a fairly sophisticated apparatus with the fulcrum moved up, etc. I don't how it and what I've done compare in function but I'm guessing I've come fairly close with my rude approximation at a fraction of the cost. Good luck and . . . Keep the Revs up! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ phRedd '93 Classic Redd ---------------------------------separator--------------------------------- What I've done is to continue the threads down the shaft til the point where it meets the beginning flange of the conical section. Then, I cut off about 16mm of the top of the threaded portion which represents how much farther I would be able to get the ball to screw down onto the shaft after all the ball modifications were complete. What I did to the Voodoo knob was to first cut off the entire "neck" under the ball that Voodo Bob had put there to mate with the OEM boot setup. I didn't like it as it put a lot of material between my fingers when I surrounded the ball with my hand as I grasped it from the top -- my preferred method to grabbing it from the side as you do with the OEM setup. At first, it was absolutely great in feel. The shaft protruding below the knob was only 10mm in diameter. Allowed a real "eagle claw" grip. But, I wanted to make it shorter. So, then, I tapped threads into the Voodoo knob to as close as I could get to the bottom of its shaft hole -- about another 10mm or so, I guess. Could've gone farther but it would've necessitated grinding the end off a perfectly good tap and the little gain didn't seem worth it. Then I countersunk the open end of the hole to accommodate the conical area of the gear lever where it would now want to screw down over. The entire top end of the gear lever assembly is now about 3 inches tall (haven't measured it) above the shoulders at the base of larget shaft diameter. The bottom of the ball seats at about half way down the conical area of the lever. This actually puts more material between my fingers under the ball than I'd like but, I guess, I have to take the bad with the good. I removed the OEM hard plastic ring that formed the top opening of the shift boot and replaced it with a rubber O ring that will allow the boot to stretch over the largest diameter of the lever. That allows me to push the boot down all the way out of the way of my grip. Of course, I now have that relatively ugly, fat shift lever sticking up out of it but, again, I guess I have to take the bad with the good. ---------------------------------separator--------------------------------- PS: Although I didn't do it, I would recommend removing the gear shift lever from the tranny and cutting the thread on it with it mounted on a bench.

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