Miata Mailing List: June 1997, Message #34
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From: 	PDFix@aol.com

Subject: RE:  CAI is a farce...

Date: 	Sun, 1 Jun 1997 18:58:28 -0500



On May 30, Dan Scolnick <dans@dmscomp.com>, who has purchased two (2) JR

CAI's,  wrote:



>>Geez, one ignoramus says the CAI is junk because all it is is a chunk of

>>plastic, a hose and a metal pipe!



You know what they say, Dan... "ignorance is bliss"- 

which explains why you're so happy with the (2) $450 CAI's you've purchased.



Also, Dan treats us to this gem:



>Great intake sounds certainly make the car feel faster, but dyno's and track

time is >accurated.

>Assholes aren't.



I'll let the "accuracy" of that comment speak for itself.





-Paul Fix

"Ignoramous" at large...

Certified "unaccurated asshole"...

'92 "C" HT



p.s. I didn't say it was "junk", I said it was expensive-- and it is.



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>From: Dan Scolnick <dans@dmscomp.com>

>Subject: CAI bashing

>Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:05:48 -0500

>

>	Geez, one ignoramus says the CAI is junk because all it is is a chunk of

>plastic, a hose and a metal pipe!

>

>	Then, another ignoramus chimes in that his doosey is better because cool

>air comes in his headlight duct into his aftermarket filter and that is

>just as good as the Jackson as told impeccably by the seat of his pants

>testing!!

>

>1.  There are well documented dyno runs on this list (and others) for the

>past few years demonstrating the Jacksonized HP improvements not including

>the timing advance (or in my case I advanced the timing on both cars BEFORE

>adding the Jackson) and without the 160 thermostat.

>

>2.  There are documents that have gone through this list that shows - anti

>intuitively - that air EXITS the headlight ducts, the higher pressure at

>the base of the windshield (a la cowl induction, which some list members

>have implemented, after testing exactly where the high and low pressure

>areas of the miata nose are and seeing that the Nafta duct, in reality,

>lets air out instead of in)

>

>3.  Any unsilenced air cleaner (including flipping over the stock air box

>cover) will give you some GREAT intake sounds.  Great intake sounds

>certainly make the car feel faster, but dyno's and track time is accurated.

>Assholes aren't.

>

>4.  I've seen people make claims about how it helps the top end and hurts

>the bottom end.  I have to wonder if they have ever driven a JRCAI equipped

>car.

>

>5.  I bought two JR CAI's (one at a time) specifically for the extra HP

>(which there is plenty), the exceptional addition to low end torque (that

>i've seen people on this list say is reduced - BULLSH?T!!), the sound of

>the unsilenced intake (which i've always loved), and for that big metal

>intake pipe.  There is a lot that goes into an intake system that has to do

>with tuning (runner diameter lengths & diameters), dimensions and power

>range.  You just don't get that tuning by duct (quack!) tapeing an old

>clothes dryer hose to a big funnel and letting it hang out of the the

>jig-saw-cut-hole you just made in the hood.  Plus it's CARB approved.

>

>only the purchaser can decide if it's worth the money, Yes it's expensive,

>the price for that horsepower wasn't a consideration for me.  Just dealing

>with the bureaucracy to get it approved is worth the cost of admission.

>The Hardware in the kit works and does what it claims - put them together

>and the JR-CAI is a bargain.

>

>As far as it voiding the warrantee - first, who cares?  My heater blower

>goes bad they CAI won't affect the warrantee.  The engine blows?  I'll not

>worry about that one.

>

>5.  You JR CAI bashers sound like a bunch of sour grapes to me.

>

>

>/^\dans & Tweedle '94 ph'R'edd

>	 & AAHHRRR '97 'R' black on black on black on black

>

>Two Coasts, Two Cars, Too Confused