Miata Mailing List: July 1999, Message #127
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| From: | Gene Honermann <golfer@airmail.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Take us off Mailing list PLEASE!!! golfer@airmail.net |
| Date: | Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:13:46 -0400 |
miata@list.realbig.com wrote:
> Subjects of messages in this digest:
> ====================================
> Re: Nice birthday commentary on Miata "Jeff Gehrig"
> <miata@bigpond.com>
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim "Hank Harvey"
> <hank@grove.net>
> Re: rear speakers? "Hank Harvey"
> <hank@grove.net>
> RE: Paint Chipping, Clear Coat Damage Normarby@aol.com
> mail "berniem"
> <berniem@peganet.com>
> Rental Miata's in Seattle, Washington "Pam Barker (home)"
> <Pam@Barker.net
> RE: installing springs... "Taylor, Dennis A."
> <dennis_taylor@
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim "James Davison"
> <james.davison@home
> Re: installing springs... Lanny Chambers
> <lanny@derived.com>
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim BHotaling@aol.com
> Help??? "Jeffrey S. Mueller"
> <hiken@home.co
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Re: installing springs... "Jyri J. Virkki"
> <jyri@virkki.com>
> Re: You be the Judge ... beware of this Barb Williams
> <mymiata@hotmail.com>
> Help, my rear window is just been cut op "John T. Lee"
> <John_T_Lee@Vantive.C
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim "James Davison"
> <james.davison@home
> Aesthetic question "Will Brown"
> <wbrown@miata.net>
> Rollbar install: Phase 1 "Will Brown"
> <wbrown@miata.net>
> Blowers & Bars II a bust? "Will Brown"
> <wbrown@miata.net>
> Miata Magazine - Something Needs Saying Ric Allan <ric@mx5.net>
> Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1 Erik Quinn
> <ekq@valley-internet.com
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim "G.S. ROADBURN Johnson"
> <roadburn@n
> Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1 jaimev@netcom.com (Jaime C.
> Villaco
> Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1 LeanAngle1@aol.com
> Re: Blowers & Bars ll a Bust? RareMiata@aol.com
> Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1 "Will Brown"
> <wbrown@miata.net>
> RE: Happy Fireworks Day! billkille
> <billkille@friend.ly.net>
> Re: You be the Judge ... beware of this LeanAngle1@aol.com
> Re: Miata's style stands the test of tim "Keith Barton"
> <kbarton95@snip.net>
> Top install needed in Dallas/Austin EveKellyR@aol.com
> I'm back on-line Frank Mom <FrankM@miata.net>
> Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1 "Brad Franks"
> <bfranks@dragon-net.n
> Incommunicado "Brad Franks"
> <bfranks@dsl-only.net
> Re: Wagons and SUV's (again) - and getti SunRider
> <SunRider@worldnet.att.net
> When To Replace Fuel Filter in a 94 Miat mikelowe@pop.c-com.net
> re: Miata 99 Poster Jeanne Pandes Villacorte
> <jppandes@
> ====================================
>
> From: "Jeff Gehrig" <miata@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: Nice birthday commentary on Miata
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:12:49 -0400
>
> You can add the Ferrari 250 LM to that list, for me anyway.
>
> Jeff Gehrig
> jeff_gehrig@mx5.com.au
> '99 Grace Green
> MX5 CLUB of NSW #169 Australia
> Oz TeamVoodoo
> Team Grandpa
> http://www.mx5.com.au/nsw/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Rowan <jimrowan@uic.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@list.miata.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 12:33 AM
> Subject: Nice birthday commentary on Miata
>
> There is a flattering commentary in the Free Press today at:
>
> http://www.freep.com/autos/index.htm
> it's about half-way down the page.
>
> Few cars enjoy such timeless looks as the Miata.
> My choices:
> Jaguar Mark II
> Austin/Morris Mini+Fiat 500
> Austin Healey 100
> Porsche 550
> BMW 2002ti
> Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider & Spider Veloce
> Others? Lets hear'em...
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
> 99 Miata
> 60 Sprite
> "If it's not a roadster, I don't wanna drive it"
>
> ================================================
> =============================
>
> From: "Hank Harvey" <hank@grove.net>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:20:13 -0400
>
> Pat wrote:
>
> >The M1 and M2 look like almost completely
> >different cars to me.
>
> That's to you and me not the average schmuk out there on the road with
> his
> ear glued to a mobil phone and his eye glued to his double
> cheeseburger with
> extra fries. You'd be amazed at the number which fail to notice a
> difference until it's pointed out to them and their nose is physically
>
> placed on it.. When the first road tests of the M2 came out I think
> many
> mentioned the fact that it hardly drew a second look on the road.
> Only real
> car nuts and in particular Miata types seemed to notice right away.
> IIRC
> the Miata Mag write-up made mention of this tendency when the car was
>
> driven in downtown SF early on.
>
> Drive on...
> Hank & Belle
> hank@grove.net
> '99 Silver
> RAGS 57
> "HANKS"
> Murphy, NC
>
> ==========
> ===================================================================
>
> From: "Hank Harvey" <hank@grove.net>
> Subject: Re: rear speakers?
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:20:19 -0400
>
> I saw what I consider a slick setup at the Gap about a month ago
> although I
> can't remember who's car it was on. He had cut a piece of plywood to
> fit in
> the area directly behind the seats so as to blend with the interior
> and
> braced it to sit at about a 45 degree angle from behind the seats
> toward the
> back of the car. He then padded it and covered it with interior
> matching
> material, mounting two large (6x9?) coaxial speakers on it. He
> attached
> enough speaker wire so it could be lifted up while the boot was
> installed
> then re seated. I was unique and easily used both top up and down.
> It
> could also be easily removed should the space be needed. I plan to do
> this
> in the future. Just an idea and as I say it's not mine. If it
> belongs to
> someone reading this my apologies for not remembering.your name or
> giving
> you specific credit.
>
> Drive on...
> Hank & Belle
> hank@grove.net
> '99 Silver
> RAGS 57
> "HANKS"
> Murphy, NC
>
> -
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: Normarby@aol.com
> Subject: RE: Paint Chipping, Clear Coat Damage
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:22:28 -0400
>
> Dear The Badger:
> Sounds like a problem like my dad had a year ago. He went to one body
> shop
> and they said REPAINT $245. He went to another body shop and that guy
> said no
> problem I can cut and buff it out. So he "cut it" and buffed it out
> for $35.
> Could not tell it was ever marked.
>
> If you want to do it yourself get some "fine" rubbing compound and
> gently
> follow directions on using it. Then wax over the area
>
> Norm Arbuckle & SPORT
> A 99 Miata White/Tan/Automatic & Proud of it
> Indy Miata Club #526 MCA#73116
> Long time motorcycle touring nut to Miata sport car touring nut
> "ONE MORE TIME"
>
> ===============
> ==============================================================
>
> From: "berniem" <berniem@peganet.com>
> Subject: mail
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:48:46 -0400
>
> "set miata mail ack"
>
> BERNIEM@PEGANET.COM
>
> ===================
> ==========================================================
>
> From: "Pam Barker (home)" <Pam@Barker.net>
> Subject: Rental Miata's in Seattle, Washington
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:51:58 -0400
>
> Hi, there I am looking for a rental Miata in Seattle Washington.
> Already called the single location listed on www.teamseg.net but they
> don't have a car available on the dates I need and couldn't provide
> any additional leads.
>
> Does anyone know someone who rents Miatas in the Seattle, Washington
> area? Will be flying into the Seattle/Tacoma airport and have reserved
> a Chrysler Sebring convertible already, but would still like to find a
> Miata if I could. While a Sebring will be OK, it's simply not the same
> as a Miata......
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> =================
> ============================================================
>
> From: "Taylor, Dennis A." <dennis_taylor@mail.northgrum.com>
> Subject: RE: installing springs...
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:53:22 -0400
>
> > To anyone who's installed springs on a miata, three quick questions.
>
> >
> > 1. How long did it take you?
> > 2. Did it require any special tools?
> > 3. How difficult was it? (would you do it again or would you
> > pay someone to
> > do it?)
> >
> > Ok, so that's really 4 questions. :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > John M.
> >
>
> John,
>
> I just got finished installing FM springs and Illuminas (sp?) on my 95
> and
> did not find it too difficult at all. It took me approximately 5 hours
> with
> a big chunk of that time compressing and releasing springs. BTW, if
> you go
> to DlrAlt's web site, Bill Cardell has an excellent set of
> instructions that
> I highly recommend. Regarding tools you'll need deepdish sockets and a
> big
> hammer. I used a 2-1/2 pound short handled sledge and it worked great
> for
> popping the ball joints. Finally, if you're comfortable doing basic
> mechanical stuff you can do this and save yourself about $400 dollars.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: "James Davison" <james.davison@home.com>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:11 -0400
>
> i've got one better. when i first bought my '94 BRG i had friends say
> that
> they liked the shape better than the earlier ones! it does look
> somewhat
> different than the average 90-93 due to the different wheels, the less
>
> common colour and the tan top and interior, but as far as being a
> different
> shape? i don't see it. they might have been reaching for compliments-
> the
> 'you should have bought a golf gti' crowd factor i guess.
>
> i agree about the M2s. they look markedly different. i like the shape
> a lot
> better- the proportions are much nicer and it has a much more integral
> look.
> i don't like the black rocker panels on the M1. it's the same as the
> black
> rocker panels on the 2nd-generation, lesser 3-series BMWs vs. the M3
> body
> kit. i think if i ever had my car repainted i'd get the rocker panels
> done
> in the body colour. i also think the nose looks like an afterthought
> on the
> M1. the M2's curvy, flush headlamp look is very nice- especially with
> the
> appearance body kit.
>
> james
> '94 BRG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hank Harvey <hank@grove.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> > Pat wrote:
> >
> > >The M1 and M2 look like almost completely
> > >different cars to me.
> >
> > That's to you and me not the average schmuk out there on the road
> with his
> > ear glued to a mobil phone and his eye glued to his double
> cheeseburger
> with
> > extra fries. You'd be amazed at the number which fail to notice a
> > difference until it's pointed out to them and their nose is
> physically
> > placed on it.. When the first road tests of the M2 came out I think
> many
> > mentioned the fact that it hardly drew a second look on the road.
> Only
> real
> > car nuts and in particular Miata types seemed to notice right away.
> IIRC
> > the Miata Mag write-up made mention of this tendency when the car
> was
> > driven in downtown SF early on.
> >
> > Drive on...
> > Hank & Belle
> > hank@grove.net
> > '99 Silver
> > RAGS 57
> > "HANKS"
> > Murphy, NC
> >
> >
> >
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: Lanny Chambers <lanny@derived.com>
> Subject: Re: installing springs...
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:23:31 -0400
>
> On 7/1/99 16:53, John M. mcg@home.com wrote:
>
> >To anyone who's installed springs on a miata, three quick questions.
>
> I just did shocks, same thing.
>
> >1. How long did it take you?
>
> 6 hours, but if you're not going to Konis at the same time you can
> save
> half an hour of drilling, and if you're not reusing the old springs or
>
> shocks you will miss at least an hour of forearm torture with the
> spring
> compressor. You won't need a compressor to put short springs on new
> shcks. Say 4.5 hours working alone.
>
> >2. Did it require any special tools?
>
> Jackstands, a torque wrench, and a large hammer to unseat the upper
> balljoints. Buy new cotter pins first. Also, if you don't already have
> a
> deep-well 14mm socket, buy one up front.
>
> >3. How difficult was it? (would you do it again or would you pay
> someone to
> >do it?)
>
> Not difficult, just tedious. I figured it was like making $300 *after
> taxes*. My body was nearly recovered in only 3 or 4 days, really it
> was.
> I wouldn't pay anyone to do it again.
>
> ---
> Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
> '94C
>
> Got Red?
>
> ========
> =====================================================================
>
> From: PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:31:47 -0400
>
> Keith Hearn wrote:
>
> >
> > What car has changed less than the Miata in the
> > last 10 years?
> >
>
> The Corvette comes to mind. Though if they had put fixed headlights on
> it I
> doubt that this would be the case.
> Pat
> '96M
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:40:20 -0400
>
> James Davison wrote:
>
> >
> > i agree about the M2s. they look markedly different. i like the
> shape a lot
> > better- the proportions are much nicer and it has a much more
> integral look.
> > i don't like the black rocker panels on the M1. it's the same as the
> black
> > rocker panels on the 2nd-generation, lesser 3-series BMWs vs. the M3
> body
> > kit. i think if i ever had my car repainted i'd get the rocker
> panels done
> > in the body colour. i also think the nose looks like an afterthought
> on the
> > M1. the M2's curvy, flush headlamp look is very nice- especially
> with the
> > appearance body kit.
> >
> > james
> > '94 BRG
> >
>
> My rocker panels are factory painted on my M1. I think that was
> standard on all
> of the "M" editions. I would probably paint the black ones on another
> car
> eventually, but it wouldn't bother me much at all. As far as the nose
> on the M1,
> that is all opinion of course. I actually love both of them and hope
> to have one
> of each one day.
> Pat
> '96M
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: BHotaling@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:42:30 -0400
>
> In a message dated 7/1/99 7:33:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> PWS@austin.rr.com
> writes:
>
> << What car has changed less than the Miata in the
> > last 10 years? >>
>
> *** some british sportscars whose names don't come to mind... morgan?
> cat?
> bentleys? rolls? And maybe da' Italian fur'arri? Certainly some
> Seats and
> the Mexican VW... some former Eastern Block blocks? Gotta' be more
> but
> probably not many that we see every day.
>
> bob
>
> ===
> ==========================================================================
>
> From: "Jeffrey S. Mueller" <hiken@home.com>
> Subject: Help???
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:56:04 -0400
>
> Here's the long of it... ; )
>
> I own a 1991 Mercury Capri XR2 Turbo and I totaled it the other day.
> ;
> If you aren't familiar with the car let me explain... The engine in
> the
> car is a Mazda 1.6L DOHC Turbo, the same engine that is in the
> Japanese
> Mazda 323 turbos. The body style is fashioned after the Miata.
>
> I am toying with the idea of buying a Miata as a replacement. Now I
> have
> several questions here, and I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
>
> A) If I buy the salvage back from the insurance company does anyone
> know
> what Miata the current turbo kit will work with? The whole system was
>
> re-tooled about 10k miles ago and I would hate to see it go to waste.
> If it
> will bolt on to the new Miata that would be ideal, but if not I can
> easily
> find any year Miata through CarMax. I can easily strip ot the
> computer,
> injectors, turbo, and intercooler if I know how to get them to work on
> a
> Miata engine...
> B) If it isn't possible to do a swap to a Miata, is anyone out there
> interested in the engine. As I said the turbo was just rebuilt, and I
> know
> it is impossible to find a 323 Turbo here in the States.
>
> Any ideas guys????
>
> J. Mueller
>
> ==========
> ===================================================================
>
> From: PWS <PWS@austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:29 -0400
>
> BHotaling@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 7/1/99 7:33:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> PWS@austin.rr.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << What car has changed less than the Miata in the
> > > last 10 years? >>
> >
> > *** some british sportscars whose names don't come to mind...
> morgan? cat?
> > bentleys? rolls? And maybe da' Italian fur'arri? Certainly some
> Seats and
> > the Mexican VW... some former Eastern Block blocks? Gotta' be
> more but
> > probably not many that we see every day.
> >
> > bob
>
> Actually that was Keith that asked the question, just to avoid
> confusion for
> anyone who cares, heh. And I can not believe that I did not mention my
> dream car
> that is about to be 10 years old, the Acura NSX. I would like to see
> them keep
> this design for a long time to come.
> Pat
> '96M
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: "Jyri J. Virkki" <jyri@virkki.com>
> Subject: Re: installing springs...
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:00:55 -0400
>
> Once upon a time Taylor, Dennis A. wrote
> >
> > a big chunk of that time compressing and releasing springs. BTW, if
> you go
> > to DlrAlt's web site, Bill Cardell has an excellent set of
> instructions that
> > I highly recommend. Regarding tools you'll need deepdish sockets and
> a big
> > hammer. I used a 2-1/2 pound short handled sledge and it worked
> great for
> > popping the ball joints. Finally, if you're comfortable doing basic
>
> Or, just compress the front springs while on the car and no need for
> physical violence with the hammer.
>
> --
> Jyri J. Virkki - Santa Cruz, California - Linux: The Choice of a GNU
> Generation
>
> ==========
> ===================================================================
>
> From: Barb Williams <mymiata@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: You be the Judge ... beware of this guy!
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:04:58 -0400
>
> I disagree. I don't think Bob's intent in posting was to blackball
> the guy
> (or gal). That seems to alwaysend up getting reduced to an uncivil
> flame
> war. I can think of a few recent instances where someone complained
> about a
> vendor without giving the vendor a fair chance to justify
> themselves. So,
> rather than giving someone a bad name, just take Bob's advice:
>
> 1. "Beware of who you're buying things from "
> 2. "treat folks fairly at Miata meets!!"
>
> Barb Williams
> Atlanta, GA
> '97 White touring package (hers)
> '97 Montego Blue touring package (his)
>
> >From: Dave Young <DAYoung@netzero.net>
> >Reply-To: Dave Young <DAYoung@netzero.net>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@list.miata.net>
> >Subject: Re: You be the Judge ... beware of this guy!
> >Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:02:58 -0400
> >
> >OK, Bob, you state to beware of this guy in your subject line but you
> never
> >said
> >who it is.
> >Give us a name if you really want us to watch out for him.
> >
> >Dave Young
> >90A Red
> >
>
> _______________________________________________________________
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>
> =============================================================================
>
> From: "John T. Lee" <John_T_Lee@Vantive.COM>
> Subject: Help, my rear window is just been cut open!!
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:08:00 -0400
>
> Some loser just my 97miata window open, I don't think anything is
> lost.
>
> The cut is extended to the black part at bottom of the window also...
>
> Any one knows how much a job like this will cost around
> seattle/vancouver?
>
> Maybe a used window to save a buck? Source?
>
> Thank you!
>
> John
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: "James Davison" <james.davison@home.com>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:36:16 -0400
>
> Jaguar XJ-series, BMW M3 (ok, from '92), Porsche 911 hasn't changed
> much,
> until last year, for more than 30 years.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <BHotaling@aol.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time (from www.auto.com)
>
> > In a message dated 7/1/99 7:33:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> PWS@austin.rr.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << What car has changed less than the Miata in the
> > > last 10 years? >>
> >
> > *** some british sportscars whose names don't come to mind...
> morgan?
> cat?
> > bentleys? rolls? And maybe da' Italian fur'arri? Certainly some
> Seats
> and
> > the Mexican VW... some former Eastern Block blocks? Gotta' be
> more but
> > probably not many that we see every day.
> >
> > bob
> >
> >
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: "Will Brown" <wbrown@miata.net>
> Subject: Aesthetic question
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:05:10 -0400
>
> Soon to be putting in a rollbar, and cutting up the rear (tan)
> carpet. Have woofers hidden underneath, am thinking of cutting
> holes in the carpet to let them stick through, and put fine-mesh
> black grilles over them. Comments?
>
> \/\/
> I think BMW ought to re-release an updated 2002 model in the year
> 2002...
>
> =======
> ======================================================================
>
> From: "Will Brown" <wbrown@miata.net>
> Subject: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:05:16 -0400
>
> .or... I feel like Ted4Eagles!
>
> Gutted the car tonight in preparation for the HDHC install this
> weekend. Totally removed the pax seat, and broke loose all the
> drivers seat bolts (yes, single man install coming up) - man those
> bolts are a doozy!! Plus removed center console and rear carpeting
> and side trim... took about 80-90 minutes... Feel's like I'm halfway
> done with the install... I hope so?!? :-)
>
> Cutting metal on Friday night - anyone know if you gotta cut into the
> aluminum removable rear panel? Just wondering ahead of time.
>
> \/\/
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: "Will Brown" <wbrown@miata.net>
> Subject: Blowers & Bars II a bust?
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:09:46 -0400
>
> Seems that way. The event is geared for the spectator (prospective
> buyer) and I got one whole response for an audience.
>
> Did hear from a blower guy or two, who want to talk shop with other
> forced induction owners, bounce ideas off them, and the like. So at
> best we're looking at an informal tire kicking session on Saturday
> for the Forced Induction crowd (and anyone else who wants to show up)
>
> One guy with a Sebring setup wants to talk to other Sebring folks,
> and someone with a stage IV turbo wants to knock around some ideas
> too. Any owners of like equipped Miatas out there who could
> lend an ear?
>
> Got a lot of feedback to hold whatever event transpires at the Look
> Rock picnic area... so I guess that'll be the place for "whoever" to
> congregate. Engines can stay cool so you can poke around in the
> engine bay, and facilities and shade are available. Maybe once the
> picnic-ers clear out, the interested parties can re-assemble closer
> together.
>
> \/\/
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: Ric Allan <ric@mx5.net>
> Subject: Miata Magazine - Something Needs Saying
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:12:25 -0400
>
> Don't let the quality of the product belie what really is behind Miata
>
> Magazine. The fact that it is of high quality, good size, and well
> (vendor) supported is a tribute to ONE person, Barb Beach. Yes,
> others put
> a lot into it but there are NO full time employees. It's NOT
> Time-Warner
> or Ziff-Davis or Gannett Press.
>
> Miata Magazine is a labor of love and a heck of a big task. They
> occasionally get behind but only because they.... 1) Try to maintain
> a
> timeliness that does not permit working four months in advance, 2)
> Give
> dates based on well thought out plans that unfortunately still depend
> upon
> OTHERS meeting deadlines promised to MM, but not always met, 3) Don't
> pad
> prices to permit extroidinary measures when others cut into their
> announced
> timelines, and on....
>
> Example: It was Barb who got the 'member perk' of free A/C on the
> 10AE for
> us... and then suffered the slings from being late to press when Mazda
>
> insisted on having the info in a particular issue... and was slow in
> getting it to her.
>
> Example: During our phone conversation today, I could hear the zipping
> and
> ripping of tape... yep, BARB is hand packing the 'INTENSE MIATA' books
> for
> shipping. Not a big shipping department but Barb herself.
>
> So... Expect a lot of Miata Magazine. Raise the standards (as long
> as YOU
> tell her what you'd like to see - I did - though I thought this was
> one of
> the best issues, I had a few suggestions). Expect to receive your
> book...
>
> But, cut a little slack with the tone taken, you're not dealing with a
>
> fortune 500 company that's raking in the revenues hand over fist.
> Though
> technophobic, Barb IS one of us. She's got her heart and soul into
> this
> thing called the Miata.
>
> Ric Allan
> Cridhe Treun 97M
> Loveland, Ohio
>
> MX5 Journal
> ric@mx5.net www.mx5.net
> ric@miataclubs.com www.miataclubs.com
> ric@teamseg.net www.teamseg.net
> www.200mphmiata.net
>
> ===========================
> ==================================================
>
> From: Erik Quinn <ekq@valley-internet.com>
> Subject: Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:17:51 -0400
>
> Will,
>
> I had to cut my panel - a couple of square inches out of each corner,
> if I
> remember correctly. Not too bad at all. I've read others' comments
> that
> they didn't have to cut the removable panel. Cutting the rear deck
> will
> make you feel very manly though. :)
>
> I highly recommend checking out Jaime Villacorte's well-documented
> page.
> I don't have the URL here at the office but if you're interested, I'll
>
> email it to you as soon as I get home. If you have any questions,
> drop me
> an email.
>
> Erik and Bluebell, who loves her rollbar
> '96PEP
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Will Brown wrote:
>
> > ..or... I feel like Ted4Eagles!
> >
> > Gutted the car tonight in preparation for the HDHC install this
> > weekend. Totally removed the pax seat, and broke loose all the
> > drivers seat bolts (yes, single man install coming up) - man those
> > bolts are a doozy!! Plus removed center console and rear carpeting
> > and side trim... took about 80-90 minutes... Feel's like I'm halfway
>
> > done with the install... I hope so?!? :-)
> >
> > Cutting metal on Friday night - anyone know if you gotta cut into
> the
> > aluminum removable rear panel? Just wondering ahead of time.
> >
> > \/\/
> >
> >
> >
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: "G.S. ROADBURN Johnson" <roadburn@ntr.net>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:28:47 -0400
>
> >> What car has changed less than the Miata in the
> >> last 10 years? >>
>
> It's true: The basic Miata design isn't antique; it's ageless.
>
> I'm probably pushing my luck by comparing it to the look of another
> love-it-or-hate-it car with a number of similar timeless design
> elements:
> the second-generation Corvair.
>
> Both cars rely on balanced proportions and graceful compound curves
> instead
> of spoilers, vents, fins, Cruiserline Ventiports or other design
> histrionics.
>
> The Corvair suffered by virtue of its birth in the Age of Chrome, but
> a
> late-model hardtop with double-link suspension, front spoiler, some
> flares
> and the 140- or 180-horse engine was a thing of beauty, as well as a
> swell
> way to haul ass.
>
> You're probably not all that eager to be driving the "Corvair of the
> '90s,"
> but design lines don't lie. Except for the Lotus Elan, what car comes
> closer
> to the look and feel of the Miata? / Roadburn
>
> =============================================
> ================================
>
> From: jaimev@netcom.com (Jaime C. Villacorte)
> Subject: Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:42:49 -0400
>
> Hi Will,
>
> } and side trim... took about 80-90 minutes... Feel's like I'm halfway
>
> } done with the install... I hope so?!? :-)
>
> You're getting close to the really hard stuff. I found cutting the
> rear deck,
> and securing the bolts of the rollbar to be the hardest part. Doing it
>
> alone didn't help matters either. Also I wish I had a jigsaw or air
> tools
> to make the rear deck cuts, instead of metal snips. That would have
> really sped things up.
>
> } Cutting metal on Friday night - anyone know if you gotta cut into
> the
> } aluminum removable rear panel? Just wondering ahead of time.
>
> Yup...just a little bit. I think I have pictures of this at:
>
> http://www.wenet.net/~jaimev/M-rollbar
>
> jaime villacorte jaimev@netcom.com
> http://www.wenet.net/~jaimev/miata.html
> Laguna Blue 94B Irvine, CA
>
> ==============================
> ===============================================
>
> From: LeanAngle1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:55:19 -0400
>
> In a message dated 99-07-01 21:14:35 EDT, wbrown@miata.net writes:
>
> << Plus removed center console and rear carpeting
> and side trim... took about 80-90 minutes... Feel's like I'm halfway
> done with the install... I hope so?!? :-)
> >>
> * Will,
>
> Why did you remove the center counsole?
>
> Aaron
> aaron@miata.net
>
> ===============
> ==============================================================
>
> From: RareMiata@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Blowers & Bars ll a Bust?
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:56:58 -0400
>
> Will, I should have my Hard Dog Hard Core Hard Top Dual Diagonal
> installed in
> time for the Gap (H3D2?) and I would be happy to talk to anyone who
> would
> like to know more about it.
>
> Steve Swiger will also be coming up, and he has the AutoPower with the
>
> harness bar. He showed the bar last year, but he would most likely be
> happy
> to show it again as well. Paul Schaffer has the regular Hard Core,
> and he
> might be willing to show his bar as well.
>
> Don't be discouraged, some people may not have seen your earlier
> post! I
> really enjoyed this session last year and thought it was very
> informative and
> very useful. Don't give up hope yet!
>
> Jonathan Skinner
> Gap bound in 27 days!
>
> From: "Will Brown" <wbrown@miata.net>
> Subject: Blowers & Bars II a bust?
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:09:46 -0400
> ----------------------------------------------
> -------------------------
>
> Seems that way. The event is geared for the spectator (prospective
> buyer) and I got one whole response for an audience.
>
> Did hear from a blower guy or two, who want to talk shop with other
> forced induction owners, bounce ideas off them, and the like. So at
> best we're looking at an informal tire kicking session on Saturday
> for the Forced Induction crowd (and anyone else who wants to show up)
>
> One guy with a Sebring setup wants to talk to other Sebring folks,
> and someone with a stage IV turbo wants to knock around some ideas
> too. Any owners of like equipped Miatas out there who could
> lend an ear?
>
> Got a lot of feedback to hold whatever event transpires at the Look
> Rock picnic area... so I guess that'll be the place for "whoever" to
> congregate. Engines can stay cool so you can poke around in the
> engine bay, and facilities and shade are available. Maybe once the
> picnic-ers clear out, the interested parties can re-assemble closer
> together.
>
> \/\/
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: "Will Brown" <wbrown@miata.net>
> Subject: Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:02:25 -0400
>
> LeanAngle1@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Why did you remove the center counsole?
>
> Because I could, and it's "near" where I'm going to be working. An
> errant placed knee in the heat of battle might well cave in the poor
> thing. :-) I know how I tend to work, and "fervent" is one of the
> adjectives one might tend to use if one were to watch me... :-) I
> had to watch myself when trying to break free the bolts that hold
> the seats in. I take leverage wherever I can find it, and don't
> necessarily think ahead of time if it's something I should be
> leveraging against :-)
>
> OK I'm not that much a meathead, but, well, mainly one less thing
> to worry about, and at 4 screws and a shiftknob (and two electrical
> connectors), a small price to pay for added peace of mind. (for me,
> anyway)
>
> \/\/
>
> ====
> =========================================================================
>
> From: billkille <billkille@friend.ly.net>
> Subject: RE: Happy Fireworks Day!
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:24:15 -0400
>
> >Gordon,
> >
> >Of course it's good for the fireworks ... but is that watching or
> making
> >... <VeryBigGrin>
> >
> >I agree, Happy Canada Day to all .....
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >Toronto, Ontario,
>
> The synchronized (with music) fireworks we witnessed during the dinner
> cruise at Miata 96 in Toronto were the best I've ever seen.
>
> Bill Kille, Chestertown, Md.
> 93, Tangier Orange, "The Slut"
> Teams: DelVal & PACE
> Md. Tag: DELVAL
>
> ================
> =============================================================
>
> From: LeanAngle1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: You be the Judge ... beware of this guy!
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:49:49 -0400
>
> In a message dated 99-07-01 20:17:02 EDT, mymiata@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << I disagree. I don't think Bob's intent in posting was to blackball
> the
> guy
> (or gal). That seems to alwaysend up getting reduced to an uncivil
> flame
> war. I can think of a few recent instances where someone complained
> about a
> vendor without giving the vendor a fair chance to justify
> themselves. So,
> rather than giving someone a bad name, just take Bob's advice:
>
> 1. "Beware of who you're buying things from "
> 2. "treat folks fairly at Miata meets!!"
>
> * Hi Barb,
>
> You bring up a very interesting point. It's not that I disagree so
> much with
> what you're saying, I just think that Bob's post really meant
> something
> else..a bit stronger as it were....and hence, this is where the the
> interpretation begins.
>
> Since Bob did not "spell it out directly" his statement is up for
> interpretation. Todays world is so full of inuendos, that only the
> person
> actually posting knew his/her intentions. I'm not trying to stir
> trouble,
> lord knows I've done that before, but I thought a bit differently
> about the
> post. Many wrongful things have been attributed to others via the
> "inuendo"
> route.... and if you are not prepared for the consequences of
> "spelling it
> all out", including names etc....then why bother at all. I believe by
> not
> telling the details, you short change all, and as a journalist, we
> sometimes
> do not attribute all information just for the fact that we want the
> readership to crave the next written installment....Bob's post left me
> with a
> bit of curriousity..both on subject matter, and what really brought
> his anger
> to the surface...but that's MY interpretation.
>
> It seems to me that if you actually have a problem with a vendor, or
> someone
> posing as a vendor or a situation that you truely dislike, why not
> just come
> out and say it. I believe it's the inuendos that really cause the
> monkey
> wrench in the posts definition... and who really knows, maybe the
> person had
> a reason for selling as he did. Why not just confront him, get the
> facts and
> post them, rather than being a bit mysterious about it. Sometimes we
> all hide
> behind the PC thing too much....facts are facts....Now I'm not
> suggestiong
> that Bob was hiding at all...(Just making myself clear), but it sure
> seemed
> like there was something missing in the post....the anger part came
> through,
> but the reasoning was out the window..IMHO...
>
> Sorry for soap boxing..
>
> Aaron
> aaron@miata.net
>
> ===============
> ==============================================================
>
> From: "Keith Barton" <kbarton95@snip.net>
> Subject: Re: Miata's style stands the test of time
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:13:34 -0400
>
> I couldn't agree more! I'd also like to add the Lotus Esprit, Elite,
> ..well dang near any Lotus. The Mercedes Gull Wing was a beautiful
> car,
> and how about that little Saab Sonnet.
>
> Keith Barton & Elly May
> 99 Emerald LP
> South Jersey
> "Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip" Homer Simpson
> ----------
> > From: G.S. ROADBURN Johnson <roadburn@ntr.net>
> >
> > the second-generation Corvair.
> >
> was a thing of beauty, as well as a swell
> > way to haul ass.
> >
> > You're probably not all that eager to be driving the "Corvair of the
>
> '90s,"
> > but design lines don't lie. Except for the Lotus Elan, what car
> comes
> closer
> > to the look and feel of the Miata? / Roadburn
>
> ===============================================
> ==============================
>
> From: EveKellyR@aol.com
> Subject: Top install needed in Dallas/Austin
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:44:48 -0400
>
> Hello, all. I wrote a week ago with the torn top problem. The
> response was
> overwhelming to replace it, and, with much research, I have decided to
> go
> with the Robbins Sun Fast cloth with plastic window. Now, the next
> problem
> is I don't know of a good reputable place to both buy and install the
> top.
> The prices I've seen are near $1000, and I've heard you can get
> everything
> for around $750. I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and go to
> school in
> Austin, so either location would be great. Thank you so much for your
>
> continued help. This list is truly a wonderful resource.
> -Kelly
>
> ======
> =======================================================================
>
> From: Frank Mom <FrankM@miata.net>
> Subject: I'm back on-line
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:04:37 -0400
>
> For anybody who cares......I'm back behind the PC.
>
> I had a great time in the USA (thanx Eric, John, Bonnie, Jane, Dave,
> Ralph,
> Phredd, Skip and so on and on and on......)
>
> For all you europeans who don't have anything to do this weekend :
>
> Next sunday july 4th I organize a trip for the dutch MX-5 club,
> everybody
> is welcome. If you want to know more send me an email privatly.
>
> C'yah'll on the list and as I like to say..........
>
> May the Sun be with you,
>
> Frank Mom & Silver Arrow ('94 1.8i)
> Waterlandkerkje, the Netherlands
>
> Dutch & Flanders MX-5 Club
> Dutch Roadsterclub
> Miata.net member, M-club #247
> Honorary Member Peak to Peak Miata Club
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Who's Convertible is that ?
> It's a Miata !
> Who's Miata is that ?
> Zed's!
> Who's Zed ?
> Zed's dead !
>
> Bruce Willis in Pulpfiction*)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *) Slightly modified
>
> ====================
> =========================================================
>
> From: "Brad Franks" <bfranks@dragon-net.net>
> Subject: Re: Rollbar install: Phase 1
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:36:41 -0400
>
> Will,
>
> Do yourself a favor and get a Dremel (or like) tool! I tried using the
> metal
> snips to cut the rear deck and found that I didnt have the hand
> strength of
> the Jolly Green Giant to cut through 14 Ga steel at an angle!
>
> The dremel w/ cutting disc was the easiest (if not loudest) way I
> could find
> to cut the rear deck. It also came in handy when I had to cut the
> plastic
> trim for re-installation (may not pertain to all roll bar
> installations on
> all models... :) ). I also got a supplimental pack of assorted discs
> to go
> with the tool for a reasonable price. This assortment included sanding
>
> wheels of various roughness. These I used for finishing all of the cut
>
> edges.
>
> Another good thing to have with the dremel is a routing tip. It seems
> that
> on almost all HD installs that have been talked about, the backing
> plates
> for the rear supports did not line up properly once they were under
> the car.
> There is a frame rail that runs right next to where the backing plates
> go,
> and it seems that the plates (or holes, depending on how you look at
> it) are
> about 1 cm off. The routing tip comes in handy for enlarging these
> holes so
> that everything lines up good.
>
> Did that make sense?
>
> Good luck on the install, and have plenty of your favorite beverage
> ready
> for when you get done. It took me three days to fully recouperate from
> my
> solo-install of a HDHC.
>
> Brad and K.Bee (the 99% rogue, 80% '90 B model Miata and happier than
> ever!)
>
> http://www.spiritone.com/~bfranks
> (it hasnt been updated in a while, but bear with me here folks...)
>
> Check out where I work: http://www.pcheiden.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Will Brown <wbrown@miata.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:05 PM
> Subject: Rollbar install: Phase 1
>
> > ..or... I feel like Ted4Eagles!
> >
> > Gutted the car tonight in preparation for the HDHC install this
> > weekend. Totally removed the pax seat, and broke loose all the
> > drivers seat bolts (yes, single man install coming up) - man those
> > bolts are a doozy!! Plus removed center console and rear carpeting
> > and side trim... took about 80-90 minutes... Feel's like I'm halfway
>
> > done with the install... I hope so?!? :-)
> >
> > Cutting metal on Friday night - anyone know if you gotta cut into
> the
> > aluminum removable rear panel? Just wondering ahead of time.
> >
> > \/\/
> >
> >
>
> =
> ============================================================================
>
> From: "Brad Franks" <bfranks@dsl-only.net>
> Subject: Incommunicado
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:22:14 -0400
>
> Following this message will be another to the listserv (and not the
> list, I
> promise Keith!) to unsubscribe.
>
> Most of you may not know, or care for that matter, that I am in the
> Army
> Reserves. Well, duty calls. My two weeks o' summertime fun has crept
> up on
> me like a sneaky cat and decided that I leave tomorrow until the 17th.
> I
> will be going to Ft. Lewis WA with my reserve unit to train ROTC
> cadets in
> some of the finer points of killing. While I am able to take my PC
> (and I
> assure you that I am), there is no telephone access from where I will
> be so
> unsubscribing seems the only way to avouid hours of downloading e-mail
> when
> I return.
>
> I hope everyone has a pleasant time while I am gone (I'm sure most
> wont even
> miss me though...) and keep the rubber side down!
>
> Brad and K.Bee (the 99% rogue, 80% '90 B model Miata and happier than
> ever!)
>
> http://www.spiritone.com/~bfranks
> (it hasnt been updated in a while, but bear with me here folks...)
>
> Check out where I work: http://www.pcheiden.com
>
>
> =============================================================================
>
> From: SunRider <SunRider@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: Wagons and SUV's (again) - and getting long... NMC
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:24:10 -0400
>
> >I think I've been insulted. Not all Subaru Outback owners are
> "poseurs",
> >nor are Outbacks SUV wannabe's. I, unlike a great majority of the
> >SUV-owning populace, actually took/take my SUVs off-road (I once had
> an
>
> I personally think the Outback is a Station Wagon that
> has AWD kind of like the Audi A4 Avant Quattro.
> It sure isn't an SUV.
>
> >Explorer, but that's another story). The Outback is one of the best
> >vehicles I've ever used for taking backpacking/camping, especially
> when you
> >consider the state of most of the roads leading to the trailheads in
> TN and
> >NC. In fact, I consider it MORE capable than many other SUVs, and it
> can go
>
> Many other SUV's? you are calling it a SUV. It's a Wagon :)
> They gussey it up to look like a SUV but it's a wagon with
> some grills and foglights. Good offroad and competant
> but I guess it depends on how you define SUV. :)
>
> ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
> SunRider
> Red '99 Sport
> ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
> Steve Bernard; Haverhill, MA
> mailto:SunRider@Worldnet.att.net
>
>
> =============================================================================
>
> From: mikelowe@pop.c-com.net
> Subject: When To Replace Fuel Filter in a 94 Miata?
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 03:12:40 -0400
>
> As far as I can remember, my old 90 Miata needed a new fuel
> filter every 30K miles. I looked in the manual for my 96 Miata R and
> it has an interval of 60K. I do not have a manual for my 94 Miata.
> It has 39K miles.
> Am I overdue for a new fuel filter? The job looks like a PITA
> so I haven't done it even though I have the filter. The car will
> soon (ie sometime this summer) have a FM II turbo. Should I replace
> the filter now or can I wait until I'm closer to 60K?
>
> Does anyone have a factory manual for a 94 for sale?
>
> Mike Lowe mikelowe@phoenix.net http://www.phoenix.net/~mikelowe
> '96 Miata R (B Stock autocrosser)
> '94 Miata (CSP and rising -- future turbo car)
>
> ==============================================
> ===============================
>
> From: Jeanne Pandes Villacorte <jppandes@earthlink.net>
> Subject: re: Miata 99 Poster
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 03:54:20 -0400
>
> Lance,
>
> > Got mine too. I was going to ask the list if they all
> > sucked, or just mine? Notice how the yellow cars are sort
> > of green?
>
> Yup, I'm sure that our poster looks as poor as yours. (We
> just got ours in the mail today.) We're guessing that the
> poster was printed from a scan of the original
> print/negative, and was later merged with the Miata World
> logo. That might explain the really poor resolution,
> contrast, and color rendition.
>
> Does anyone know what the actual printing process was?
>
> > If the negative is any good perhaps we can start over.
> > I was hoping for something I could frame. This is just
> > good enough to avoid the trash can.
>
> I agree. On the day of the shoot, I noticed the
> photographer shifting between using an SLR and what looked
> to be a medium format camera. (I had my binoculars.)
> Surely, a medium format negatives can be used to print a
> decent poster-sized print with far better resolution than we
> got. The only reason for keeping it is because it's better
> than nothing, literally. But, it's certainly not worth the
> money that was spent. Still, I'd be willing to spend more
> if I knew that the end product would be of better quality.
>
> BTW, I was in the second column from the left, third car
> from the front. Jaime in his laguna blue was in the third
> column from the left, third car from the front ... as if you
> could tell. ;b
>
> Jeanne Pandes Villacorte
> 92 blk/tan
> jppandes@earthlink.net
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~jppandes>
> irvine, ca
>
> ==========
> ===================================================================