Miata Mailing List: November 1999, Message #244

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Well, If I can find someone to sell me the 195/45 14"
T1-S, I'll mount them up on my car and see (at an
autox) if they can outrun the people with RE-71's  -
of which there are a number in the Bay Area. 

I don't have any interest street tires per se, but the
195/45 size has me salivating enough to buy them. They
might also be useful in "slush" events. 

Any vendors have them available now?  Has anyone
ordered them? 


Craig




--- LeanAngle1@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/3/99 8:49:15 AM Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> williamp@bit-net.com writes:
> 
> <<    As to T1-S, I don't own any but I'll
>  >say something bad, they are too darned expensive
> ...
>   >>
> 
> * Hmmmm...Good point guys...Yes the T1-S are
> expensive. Toyo is in the 
> business of niche marketing and based upon how many
> units they want to sell 
> (30K of em'), which is not a lot..THEY are happy
> cause they sell out every 
> year...but...I think the general consensus is that
> people wish that the T1-S 
> was a little less expensive...but sometimes you get
> what you pay for. A RE-71 
> may be 1/2 the cost of a T1-S...is the T1-S 2x more
> of a tire?...to some may 
> be...to others..no...It all depends on what you are
> looking for, and what is 
> best for your particular driving style, and year
> round driving conditions. 
> You can expect to get 40K at least from the
> T1-S...and if you're getting 20K 
> from the RE-71's.. then the cost per tire is roughly
> the same..but the T1-S 
> are way better tires for the performance application
> side than the RE-71's. 
> But again...different strokes for different folks.
> Just wanted to point out 
> that there is more than just cost that is involved
> with buying a suitable 
> tire for your needs. Certainly cost is one factor,
> location where you drive 
> another, and what kind of driver are you, are just
> some of the factors. If 
> you eliminate tires based upon the cost factor
> alone, you might want to 
> reconsider and factor in several things about how,
> what, where you drive to 
> reach a good compromise in tires for your needs.
> 
> The T1-S meets a specific performance requirement,
> but it also meets mileage, 
> and wet weather traction too. Toyo has made the
> sidewalls a bit less stiff to 
> improve the ride characteristics, so driving comfort
> has also improved. For 
> 99.9% of all Miata drivers, the T1-S may not be the
> right tire for your 
> application, but for that .1%..Whoooweee....they're
> awesome..!!!
> 
> FWIW,
> 
> Aaron
> aaron@miata.net
> 
> 


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